Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/14/1994 05:00 PM House TRA

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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             HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                           
                         April 14, 1994                                        
                            5:00 p.m.                                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
  Representative Richard Foster, Chairman                                      
  Representative Gary Davis, Vice-Chair                                        
  Representative Bill Hudson                                                   
  Representative Eldon Mulder                                                  
  Representative Al Vezey                                                      
  Representative Curt Menard                                                   
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
  Representative Jerry Mackie                                                  
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
  Seward Ships Drydock Presentation                                            
                                                                               
  Issues Relative to Whittier Access Project Presentation                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  *HB 544:  "An Act relating to the tax on transfers and                       
            consumption of aviation fuel; and providing for an                 
            effective date."                                                   
                                                                               
            MOVED FROM COMMITTEE                                               
                                                                               
  (* First public hearing)                                                     
                                                                               
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
  JIM PRUIT                                                                    
  P.O. Box 944                                                                 
  Seward, Alaska  99664                                                        
  224-5640                                                                     
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave presentation on Seward Ships                       
                       Drydock (via teleconference)                            
                                                                               
  GARY WILLIAMS, Manager                                                       
  City of Whittier                                                             
  P.O. Box 608                                                                 
  Whittier, Alaska  99693                                                      
  472-2327                                                                     
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave presentation on City of Whittier                   
                                                                               
  BRUCE CAMPBELL, Commissioner                                                 
  Department of Transportation/Public Facilities                               
  3132 Channel Drive                                                           
  Juneau, Alaska  99801                                                        
  465-6973                                                                     
  POSITION STATEMENT:  DOT/PF position of support for HB 544                   
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS ACTION                                                              
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 544                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: INCREASE AVIATION FUEL TAX                                      
  SPONSOR(S): TRANSPORTATION                                                   
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  04/05/94      3126    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  04/05/94      3126    (H)   TRA, STATE AFFAIRS, FINANCE                      
  04/12/94              (H)   TRA AT 05:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
                                                                               
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-15, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 000                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR FOSTER called the meeting to order at 5:10 p.m., and                   
  introduced Jim Pruit, via teleconference, narrated a                         
  presentation on the Seward Ships Drydock.                                    
                                                                               
  Number 012                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. PRUIT thanked the committee for the opportunity to                       
  speak, and clarified that Seward Ships Drydock, Inc., is                     
  located in Seward, Alaska, on Resurrection Bay, at the                       
  Seward Marine Industrial Park.  He added that the facility                   
  is a ship-lift, full-service shipyard, currently employing                   
  about 53 people, with a year-round average of about 48 to 50                 
  employees.  He expressed the hope that an 80-90 employee,                    
  (100-120 in summer), year-round work force will be achieved                  
  when the facility is operating as a repair facility.                         
                                                                               
  Number 044                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR FOSTER thanked Commissioner Bruce Campbell for also                    
  sitting in on the presentation, and stated to Mr. Pruit that                 
  he hadn't realized the operation was as extensive as                         
  described by Mr. Pruit.                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 068                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. PRUIT stated the facility is a 5,700 ton drydock, with                   
  the capability of lifting vessels up to ground level on a                    
  prearranged boat-carriage, and transfer them to the uplift.                  
  He then indicated that he would narrate the silent video                     
  about to be viewed by the committee members and audience                     
  (copies of the video may be obtained from Mr. Pruit.)                        
                                                                               
  Number 120                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. PRUIT stated that the Seward Ships Drydock (SSD) is the                  
  only yard in Alaska which is approved by the American Bureau                 
  of Ships to do shaft repair.  He added that the facility is                  
  a "classed" drydock, classed by Lloyd's of London, with an                   
  annual inspection performed in accordance thereto.                           
                                                                               
  Number 140                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. PRUIT announced that the SSD is in the process of                        
  constructing a 300' x 132', 10-story high boat building to                   
  go over the 300' rail.                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 163                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. PRUIT stated the lifting capacity of the facility can be                 
  expanded, and the lifting platform itself can be extended,                   
  in terms of lifting capacity.  He added there is currently                   
  enough capacity in the facility to haul the Tustumena,                       
  transfer it up to the other rail, have the Bartlett over on                  
  one of the side rails, and possibly another ferry on the                     
  approach rail.  In emergencies, drydocking on the platform                   
  itself is possible.                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 210                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. PRUIT stated that in 1989, Seward Ships' gross payroll                   
  was $864,433, and $409,000 went to local vendors.  In 1991,                  
  $1,133,454 was payroll, and $519,545 went to local vendors;                  
  and 1993-94 will see the gross payroll exceed $4 million,                    
  and the vendor figure will be close to $730,000.                             
                                                                               
  Number 234                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. PRUIT stated that in its market research, the trade SSD                  
  looks at could be broken down into several categories:  The                  
  Alaska Marine Highway System, with 2 vessels currently                       
  available to SSD; forest product industry vessels, with 6                    
  currently available to SSD; fishing vessels, with                            
  approximately 190 vessels available to SSD; passenger                        
  vessels, with approximately 11 vessels available to SSD,                     
  though this figure is probably higher now; miscellaneous                     
  government vessels, with seven currently available to SSD;                   
  and the military, with eight vessels currently available to                  
  SSD.  Mr. Pruit added that these numbers will have changed                   
  over the last four years, with SSD's market share increasing                 
  considerably, especially with the proposed construction.                     
                                                                               
  Number 255                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. PRUIT commented on having the drydock roofed.  He stated                 
  this was a necessity because of the need to do the                           
  sandblasting and painting under cover.  He added that                        
  another advantage to being roofed is that deckside work can                  
  be done more easily.                                                         
                                                                               
  Number 268                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR FOSTER commented to Mr. Pruit that although he had                     
  been with the House Transportation Committee for six years,                  
  this was the first he had heard of SSD, and thanked Mr.                      
  Pruit for bringing it to the committee's attention.  He                      
  added that he would like to perhaps visit SSD with the                       
  committee.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 288                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON thanked Mr. Pruit for his                              
  presentation, and asked if there is a proposal, or if SSD                    
  was looking for money, or what.                                              
                                                                               
  MR. PRUIT responded that SSD probably was the best kept                      
  secret in Alaska, and he felt the Transportation Committee                   
  and legislators should know about a facility such as this                    
  one, that was built with state money.  SSD put over $2                       
  million of private money in it and is getting ready to build                 
  a $2.2 million building, with Key Bank as the financing                      
  partner.  Construction is slated to begin as soon as the                     
  frost is out and the first components will arrive sometime                   
  at the end of June.                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 320                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. PRUIT stated that SSD had been concerned that there                      
  might be a policy of state vessels going to the state                        
  facility, but he had met with the different departments and                  
  had been told that the Bartlett and Tustumena would                          
  certainly be viable candidates for SSD haul and repair.  He                  
  concluded that all SSD wants is to be treated equally in                     
  having the opportunity to haul and repair state-owned                        
  vessels.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 333                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR FOSTER thanked Mr. Pruit.                                              
                                                                               
  Number 335                                                                   
                                                                               
  GARY WILLIAMS identified himself as City Manager of the city                 
  of Whittier and thanked the committee for providing seed                     
  money last session, which will be protected until Intermodal                 
  Surface Transportation Efficiency Act (ISTEA) money comes in                 
  FY 96.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 365                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS stated it is projected that with road access,                   
  Whittier could get as many as 900,000 visitors; currently,                   
  there are about 200,000 visitors yearly.  He noted that                      
  currently, the town of Whittier is cut off from the                          
  waterfront, which is its economic lifeline.                                  
                                                                               
  Number 383                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS stated that the city of Whittier and others had                 
  gotten together and hired International Resort Advisors                      
  (IRA), which has created resorts around the world.  IRA was                  
  asked to answer two questions for city of Whittier, etc.:                    
  How to respond to the level of impact projected, and who                     
  benefits (how does Whittier benefit), and by how much?  He                   
  suggested that he would show that the investment of an                       
  initial $15 million by the state of Alaska, to seek the                      
  construction of the road and attract more money from the                     
  Federal Highway Administration to construct the road, will                   
  accrue to the state of Alaska many times more than that in                   
  local economy.                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 400                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS stated there are 211 acres available for                        
  development in the core area of Whittier.  Over half of this                 
  acreage is held by the Alaska railroad, 70 percent of which                  
  is in the waterfront area.  He suggested a joint development                 
  by the Alaska railroad and the city of Whittier, for mutual                  
  economic benefit.                                                            
                                                                               
  Number 434                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS stated that it would be fundamental for the                     
  Alaska Marine Highway to move their ferry boat from where it                 
  currently is located, out of the core area, to allow                         
  development to occur.  This would provide double the staging                 
  area and provide additional ferry terminal waiting space,                    
  thus allowing large numbers of people to move in a small                     
  area without undue conflict.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 460                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS mentioned, as one of the most fundamental                       
  developments portended by the increased access, the build                    
  out of the railroad dock and the marginal wharf.  He called                  
  this a "premier multi-modal transportation center."                          
                                                                               
  Number 506                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS discussed the overall vision for Whittier:  To                  
  hold people on the ground as long as possible, and allow                     
  them to spend money and create economy.  He commented on how                 
  quickly the cruise ship industry moves people in and through                 
  its Alaskan ports, and that strategies to hold these                         
  passengers a little longer and create economy must be                        
  developed.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 530                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS stated the build out cost would be about $1.2                   
  million.  He added that the cruise ship industry has said                    
  "when" there is a road to Whittier, they will be back.  In                   
  addition, Princess Tours is apparently preparing two world-                  
  class size cruise ships for Whittier.                                        
                                                                               
  Number 537                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS discussed the various possible financing                        
  schemes, and described the project as an amenity which also                  
  provides an opportunity for the community to recreate.  The                  
  city of Whittier would no longer be a split town with no                     
  sociological center or economic base.  He cited the road as                  
  a key element.  Mr. Williams stated that the vision also                     
  includes the Buckner Building eventually being something.                    
  He concluded that in the end, a $30 million annual economy                   
  would be created.                                                            
                                                                               
  Number 555                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE MENARD asked Mr. Williams if the railroad and                 
  road traffic would be at the same level.                                     
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS responded they would be on the same level, and                  
  there would be crossings.                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 561                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE MENARD asked if there has been any thought                    
  toward making one or the other elevated.                                     
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS responded there is a lot to work out, and that                  
  perhaps trains will run in the evenings, but at present,                     
  they anticipate them being on the same level, with                           
  crossings.  He elaborated that it would cost too much to                     
  elevate either one.                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 574                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE MENARD asked what the current population of                   
  Whittier is.                                                                 
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS cited the population as 280.                                    
                                                                               
  Number 576                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON stated that the key to the entire                      
  issue turns around whether or not a road can be built into                   
  Whittier, and what it will cost.  He commented that even                     
  though the project may only take $15 million of state                        
  monies, the project would also take federal highway monies                   
  which would also be in demand in other parts of the state.                   
  He added that the initial report he received was not too                     
  positive in terms of guiding vehicular traffic through the                   
  tunnels, and that the practicality of the concept must be                    
  considered.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 585                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS responded that the environmental impact                         
  statement and other documents go into great detail on how                    
  requirements would be met in the project.  He stated the                     
  cost for road option #3, the simplest of the options, would                  
  be $49 million, with $38 million in ISTEA money.                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-15, SIDE TWO                                                         
  Number 000                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR FOSTER thanked Mr. Williams for his presentation and                   
  asked if there were further questions from the committee.                    
  There were none, so Chair Foster noted the presence of                       
  Commissioner Bruce Campbell here to testify on HB 544, and                   
  thanked him for waiting through the two prior presentations.                 
  Number 009                                                                   
                                                                               
  BRUCE CAMPBELL, COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION                   
  AND PUBLIC FACILITIES (DOT/PF), stated that HB 544 is the                    
  result of a court challenge to the method which certain                      
  landing fees were adopted.  The plaintiffs prevailed, which                  
  left DOT with the choice of either readopting landing fees                   
  in a manner which met the Administrative Procedures Act, or                  
  having an off-setting fuel tax which would provide the same                  
  revenue the landing fees would.  He added that the air                       
  carriers preferred the latter option and the Finance                         
  Committees approved, so DOT/PF decided to pursue it.                         
                                                                               
  Number 065                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR FOSTER commended Commissioner Campbell for his                         
  accurate recitation of the facts and sequence of events                      
  surrounding the issue, adding that he gets frequent calls                    
  from members of the Air Carriers Association, of which he                    
  was once a member.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 081                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON asked Commissioner Campbell about the                  
  wording "motorfuel consumed by user," and asked what that                    
  meant.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 090                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL explained that the section in question                 
  is in the bill because the air carriers wanted an escape.                    
  He added that if the commissioner reinstated landing fees,                   
  the section in question would immediately trigger the                        
  mechanisms for doing away with the tax.                                      
                                                                               
  Number 103                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON asked if this bill impacts any other                   
  fuels.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 105                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL responded in the negative.                             
                                                                               
  Number 110                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON motioned to move HB 544, with                          
  accompanying fiscal notes and individual recommendations,                    
  out of the House Transportation Committee.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 119                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR FOSTER asked if there were any objections.  There were                 
  none, and so HB 544 was declared to be moved out of                          
  committee.  The meeting was adjourned at 6:01 p.m. for floor                 
  session.                                                                     

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